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I would like clarification on the Aresti diagram for figure 3 in the 2020 Advanced routine - the Down Loop with a full roll (on the bottom). Is the roll to be completed and integrated throughout the whole loop - or just the bottom 90 degree arc, it the half-way point at the 180 degrees? Other recent schedules with elements on the bottom of a down loop have markers as I've illustrated in the right side loop.1 Photo
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Originally posted by Peter Bryner View PostI would like clarification on the Aresti diagram for figure 3 in the 2020 Advanced routine - the Down Loop with a full roll (on the bottom). Is the roll to be completed and integrated throughout the whole loop - or just the bottom 90 degree arc, it the half-way point at the 180 degrees? Other recent schedules with elements on the bottom of a down loop have markers as I've illustrated in the right side loop.
Hope all is well down under. The roll must be integrated into the curvature of the loop and must be centered in addition to all the regular roll criteria, ie constant rate, etc. How much of the loop that roll takes up is up to the pilot. For instance, a pilot could start the roll 10 deg before the bottom of the loop and finish 10 deg past the bottom. On the other extreme, the roll could take up half (or more) of the loop. Marks that are sometimes found on figures are just centering reminders and have no significance regarding the start / finish of the rolling element. Hope that helps.
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Originally posted by Peter Bryner View PostI would like clarification on the Aresti diagram for figure 3 in the 2020 Advanced routine - the Down Loop with a full roll (on the bottom). Is the roll to be completed and integrated throughout the whole loop - or just the bottom 90 degree arc, it the half-way point at the 180 degrees? Other recent schedules with elements on the bottom of a down loop have markers as I've illustrated in the right side loop.
I checked all the way back to 2002 (17 years) and this is the FIRST TIME I have seen such a thing put out for public consumption for a Known. If we look on the Unlimited, we will see that it was included there....However, the Sportsman, & Intermediate also have the marks missing.
WayneLast edited by Wayne Matthews; 11-23-2019, 04:11 PM.
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The roll delimiters are displayed in the hard copy catalog. However, in the Aresti software the delimiters are not displayed by default unless there is a net roll change of 180 degrees in the loop; they must be enabled manually. It was a simple over sight and has been fixed.
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Thanks Ty..... I knew it would be fixed. A few Italian members also brought the issue up on the IMAC Italian Facebook page and I mentioned there that they should not cross "infect/pollinate" Scale Aerobatics rules with the FAI's F3A rules on where rolls are placed in a loop. Your fixing it will put the issue to rest.
Last edited by Wayne Matthews; 11-23-2019, 07:38 PM.
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